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Willow's New Initiative
Tuesday 23 October 2007 at 10:03 pmhttp://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2007/10/willow_creek_re.html
http://revealnow.com/storyPage.asp?pageID=12
They've got 4 stages of progress:
Exploring Christianity
Growing in Christ
Close to Christ
Christ-centered
Then there are two maladies that beset states 3 and 4: "Stalled", not growing lately and "Dissatisfied": disappointed with the church.
They've got "Spiritual behaviors: tithing, evangelism, serving, etc." and "Spiritual Attitudes: love for God, love for people".
Not long after my first visit to Willow I was all geeked about intentionality. I launched an effort here at church called the Spiritual Inventory. I set out to develop a tool to help people somehow put a number on their spiritual life and diagnose it with regard to things like attitudes and behaviors. Then we were going to find the areas where growth was required and figure out how to grow them in those places. I got quite far into the project before it started to unravel for me. There certainly are very common sense indicators of spiritual maturity and spiritual growth, but there is also an element that is notoriously indefinable. I eventually abandoned the project like any good pastor does who realizes mid-stream that they've led the flock astray, I stopped mentioning it and hoped people would forget, which they seemed to do. I also learned that people are used to pastors flapping their lips and wisely listen selectively.
more...Jimmy Carter and Biblical Christianity
Thursday 11 October 2007 at 12:27 pmThis was a response I wrote on Calvin-in-Common, a listserve when the question was raise as to how Jimmy Carter could both be so obviously "good" AND possibly a Christian fundamentalist (the opposite of good in the minds of many). One person posted asserting the public/private framework. Jimmy Carter's "private' religion may be fundamentalism but he divorces it from his public good.
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